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"都可以啊因為他只是幫你把你這次消費紀錄記在這裡面然後給你典主而已因為這個文字都是call我們現在的對我是我是直接複製現在的過來對那這個週期他畫幫我畫這介面之後我就把高鐵給我的API文件一樣在同一個丟給他", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 0, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_127", "end": 830.05, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 828.5, "text": "就同一個條件裡面就給他,", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 0, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_128", "end": 839.05, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 830.15, "text": "然後請他看一下這個API文件,接著請他幫我Review一次我們過去所討論的東西,跟這個API文件有沒有衝突,對,", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 0, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_129", "end": 847.1, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 839.15, "text": "那他有幫我抓出一些點就是因為之前都有告訴我說高鐵訂量是30天以內,可是實際上API文件是寫D加28,", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 0, 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"raw_speaker": "C", "speaker_key": "C", "original_speaker": "Speaker 3", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_16", "end": 4071.716, "speaker": "Speaker 3", "start": 4066.516, "text": "然後有一個大的法律一樣規範只在那裡", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "C", "speaker_key": "C", "original_speaker": "Speaker 3", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_17", "end": 4071.966, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 4071.716, "text": "Mm.", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_18", "end": 4077.516, "speaker": "Speaker 3", "start": 4071.966, "text": "那其他的情理法後面要有人去介入", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "C", "speaker_key": "C", "original_speaker": "Speaker 3", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_19", "end": 4078.016, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 4077.516, "text": "Mm.", "type": "transcript.text.segment", 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"text": "知道這個我會議記錄結束之後會成我的代辦事項然後就會開始實行像上次有提到", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_43", "end": 4195.974, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 4185.524, "text": "這些東西我是有記起來但是有些現在沒有辦法去馬上去解決的我就會先設為暫緩但是", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_44", "end": 4196.724, "speaker": "Speaker 3", "start": 4195.974, "text": "OKOK", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "C", "speaker_key": "C", "original_speaker": "Speaker 3", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_45", "end": 4200.824, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 4196.724, "text": "這裡太雜項我就沒有針對這本來去講", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_46", "end": 4204.624, "speaker": "Speaker 3", "start": 4200.824, "text": "好記得就好了OK再來", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "C", "speaker_key": "C", "original_speaker": "Speaker 3", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_47", "end": 4219.264, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 4210.964, "text": "外有移動了喔這裡有補上那個沒有報名資料的畫面上次有提到蛤 對", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_48", "end": 4220.564, "speaker": "Speaker 3", "start": 4219.264, "text": "蛤 上不到", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "C", "speaker_key": "C", "original_speaker": "Speaker 3", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_49", "end": 4237.714, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 4221.664, "text": "就是這個案件如果裡面沒有報名的情況下這個是他的那個嘛詳情頁嘛但是他可能剛開沒有報名的時候剛開始空還是空的時候對這個畫面有補上", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 3, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", 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我不希望他模糊", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 4, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_44", "end": 5630.682, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 5630.132, "text": "要不然", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 4, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_45", "end": 5639.532, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 5631.232, "text": "雖然這個有很多紙給你們做一些實驗讓你們Try 可是它不是無止境的一直跟我拉長 我也不喜歡", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 4, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_46", "end": 5642.232, "speaker": "Speaker 1", "start": 5640.132, "text": "所以下禮拜 最終", "type": "transcript.text.segment", "chunk_index": 4, "raw_speaker": "A", "speaker_key": "A", "original_speaker": "Speaker 1", "speaker_role": "main" }, { "id": "seg_47", "end": 5646.582, "speaker": "Speaker 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之前我們就跟他講說我看完之後我覺得我們需要把機 台拆出來 Mm-hmm. 所以在這邊的時候我就告訴他說我們 應該開始規劃高鐵聯合功能 但其實 他的記憶裡面如果他吃到其他他知道 說高鐵聯合在幹嘛\n那我告訴他說 我們會有三個系統 那 就是會有訂房系統 這是我們目前 就有的東西 我告訴他這樣的資訊 那我還需要一個高鐵系統 這是我們這 次規劃的重點 那以及金流系統 那這個就是把我們目前站台所有金 流抽出來 那方便其他的去 做 那他就會開始告訴你說 你這樣做 得很好 很輕鬆什麼什麼 對 那 我就不管他 反正後面 我就告訴他說 因為他有問我問題\n他是說他需要 先討論這個東西 所以我就會針對他告訴我的東西 做回覆但是這邊我沒有打完 啊所以好是像這個關於的問題 因為他在問我那個收款就是 訂房跟那個 訂票要不要在同一張訂單裡面 那我告訴他有兩種方案 對方案一就是訂房跟訂票 一起然後方案二就是分開來 對然後我請他幫我評估這兩種哪 一種比較好\n然後也有補充一下 是說高鐵的訂票 只能訂30天內 對 就把我知道的資訊給他 謝謝 所以我跟他其實一直是在做 一個溝通然後他在幫助我 我沒有思考到的部分 就是疏離 對 跟釐清這些需求 但是因為我們所討論都在這裡 面 所以到後面我覺得討 論出來的是訂 房\n呃訂房系統 討論完之後我請他說 那你幫我整理完之後整理 出一個Word檔給我 所以 我就先把它存下來 所以它會有第一個 檔案是訂房的 可是照你這樣子就是有 點像從需求導向 需求導向會議結束完之後 產出的文件你覺得是夠 用的嗎 我覺得\n如果以我們 我現在這個模式 我覺得是夠的第一個是釐清說 電房系統有哪些規格跟需求 討論的東西 但在做法跟流程 可能這樣的模式是 可以滿足但丟這個文件 將直接再產一個新的畫面 可能就還是會有問題 因為我討論完的時候呢我 直接請他幫我產畫面因為我要 產畫面做一個地方就是高鐵 的系統\n因为原 本订房系统不需要因为我们 讨论完之后订房系统呢 在我规划上面旧的订房 系统之前台基本 上因为 我昨天其实没有提到 就是我们现在就是在订房 的时候不会订票所以 我只照改这边原本的这个市场 上面的文字改掉告诉他来说\n就是 所以現在決議後來你跟 志明初步討論完了之後就是 跟 我跟破討論完 對 討論完 市民應該有 一直跟你講說他希望可以 保留 先讓消費者可以把時間選 出來那件事情方便 讓消費者可以下次真的 要畫標的時候特別快\n它沒有特別 強調啦但是因為我跟他講 就是說我現在就是在訂票 的時候就是等於劃位就是 等於收錢這件事情在同一個 時候做 所以沒有這件事了嘛 因為第一次我跟 志明有一天主管會結束完 之後我只是在再三 確認就是之前 為什麼劃位才是真正 把賠門\n就是對 高鐵來說它有一個循環 叫賠本 賠本是在化 位的時候才會打出去 那我說那在那之前那 那個時間是怎麼回事 我說那個基本上跟高鐵 無關對不對 萬志明跟我說對 後來我想 了一下 我想說那 為什麼當初要這麼做 後來我\n不能确认 我不敢确定 很 有可能是当初 业务跟工程师找不出来 但难怪我一直觉得好像 哪里怪怪的 不过 也有可能是我也有参与 可能啦 但关键 点就是\n後面因應 它因為 會有浮動價格然後 再來就是因應這幾 年下來業者會提出 來的一些疑問其實 最好的方式是的確第一個你想要讓他 再訂房直接開始你要讓 他再訂房就直接可以拿到票確定票 就是連同化位你是 做我讓他分開然後 另外一個 就是要嘛就是你再訂完拿來 給評證\n往額外 再去別的地方但是會變 成是你要第二段的付費 那這樣做呢好處就是 驗診之後 可能像譬如說一些問題 會比較容易被釐清 好OK沒有我只是確認一下 所以現在沒有那種只留時間 不讓他畫位的\n是留時間 喔沒有沒有誰 會先幫你把什麼名額先 站下來沒有這件事情因為這樣子 會 產生 因為現在高鐵的價格會變來變去嘛所以我一直 要變多退少補對消費者來 講他也覺得很困 這樣 擾 不行 所以 會有問題 我乾脆簡單一點的是你訂票 的時候就同時劃位也同 訂房的當下只要符合30天 內的你也可以直接就要 買就直接畫位了\n只有花為 的人購票那 要不然就是你不想要當下 那你就是後面 事後可以再回來然後你如果沒有 買到入住人數的那個人數 的話你還可以隨時再加跟 取消所以 像我這是透過 AI這樣子但我的邏輯是我先跟 他討論訂稿再跟他討論 金流然後我 沒有跟他討論高鐵\n我直接告訴他說 我們剛討論這麼多了你應該 知道高鐵要做什麼吧然後他就直接 把全部寫出來然後跟我前面 跟他討論的東西都是一模一樣那接下來 我就請他說那接下來下一步 就是我們要開始用 Figma AI 做介面 請他直接幫我產出 Figma AI 的指令 對所以他給我 了我就直接來這邊丟下去 直接做 對那這是他做出來的第一個 就是登錄的畫面\n點了之後 進來就是高鐵票 這個但因為我們下一步是給 設計所以這邊是僅供參考 所以它上面會有一個訂房資訊 那就會有訂單編號跟你哪一家 飯店一些資訊 在上面然後接下來是你 可以訂高鐵車票這是已經訂了但如果 你沒有訂的話就是點這邊 那它可以去選擇它要訂的是哪 一種類型\n它去然後 選擇車次那 接下來就是人數那因為 愛心票它是需要 填旅客資料的但是 一般的不用所以給一般的是 不需要調整這個記得Figma下載之後 他們就幫我做好了那當然最後 就是那個高鐵的帳號所以 訂票這邊就是點了之後登入到金流 所以這邊流程相對就會 變得比較簡單一點那 它訂的成功之後這邊也可以去 做取消\n對然後 如果他 今天我們還沒有收到付款成功 訊息的話這張會處於在待付款 對 咦? 會有代付款這個事情 發生嗎? 應該不會吧? 他要嘛就是付掉要嘛就是失敗 對啦正常應該是這樣子可是 因為高鐵是\n應該不會 有這個情境吧 有這我可能會跟他證明說我們的順序 是怎麼樣因為正常來講應該是我寫到 金流裡面我收到款了我才打資訊給 高鐵那可能這個畫面 永遠都不會出現可是如果它是同步 進行的話就等於是它還沒有收到 款但是有一個是它已經先丟給高鐵因為 高鐵會先把你預留25分鐘\n對 你先確認一下我的印象 應該沒有機會有貸付款 對反正這個我們就是先做出來 反正是AI產的啦這是AI產出來的那 如果沒有的話當然就是不會有這個狀況 但是如果有的話就會有這個 那如果他在代付款 的這個狀況的話我就會先 跳一個提醒訊息告訴他說如果他已經收到信用卡付款成功的話請他等一下這樣的訊息\nOK 大家這個其實這個都是AI但是 會有很多是需要微調或者是現在想 像我現在這邊有一個東西我沒有加上去 就是高鐵訂票的規 則它可能會有很多很多很多文字 但那個對我來講就是在可能 訂票的下面就多一個我 閱讀什麼什麼資訊那個 我們原本的高鐵也沒有 系統\n裡面好像就 有一些規範 對對對 一個 它有兩種規範 一種 規範是因為 因為是我們其他地方系統跟連比較 系統之間的規 範 就是 消費者可能像譬如說多久 以前啊怎麼退啊什麼的 就是比較像是業者用了 這個高鐵領票 那消費 者來訂的過程中 你跟業者之間的一些溝通 它會有一個規範 那規範其實是 一個固定\n那另外 一种规范是高铁跟 消费者之间的 他们就是高铁网站怎么写就是怎么写 所以可能 要稍微注意一下 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我覺得應該不會太難 重點是客戶因為長期 以來比如說業務因為 一直講那個話數講到 他們連他們自己都信了 客戶其實有一些已經也被讓他 洗到更深地步了那我突然改 了這個模式我們驅動業者 能不能來得及反應\n那有些人 可能就是他反講說 反正按完了貨物他那邊要退不 退還會再協調他就 按就沒拿到紙就退掉會 造成問題有些細節 我可能要再問一下子民因為 這樣子對我們後續管理上面的問題 也會減少很多 只是每筆還要被人家 吹五三塊\n所以下因為贈品 跟頁面已經討論完了規劃嘛所以接下來 就是我們開始做頁面那包含像 是這邊我是把前台所有頁面都先截圖出來 告訴你說我這邊有改灰色就是沒有改 對然後到訂單完成 這邊我只有改文字而已 啦就按鈕的文字因為原本叫做 畫位但我們 現在不是叫畫位比較像是訂票 所以我就把它講解訂購觀察 之場票\n所以那 前台其實也沒 多少東西要改就是一個是 這個高鐵 雖然會有兩個情境嘛一個是訂 房的當下我就直接要 購票 沒有沒有沒有只有一個情境 對我現在就是你在訂房的中間 不會有任何購票因為我只會告訴你 你要購票的話就是在結束的時候 訂購請他完成訂房完成或依照 依照 所以你跟Paul他們也討論完了就 知道這件事嗎\nJoe可能不知道 因為我是跟Paul討論 那你可能要請Paul跟Joy啊這群 人免得到時候少 了一個 對 Paul那邊在意的是說 你後面有沒有引導他跟提醒 他說要去哪邊晃 並跳舞 你還是 對不對 起來 對 要跟 對 自己 我請他來跟坐下來講 他跟自己確認好我是都 無所謂啊因為 假如是要\n本來那現在 就會變成是高鐵訂票一定 會有兩筆款項 Hmm. 一個是房間一個是票款對 那票的部分就是你訂 完完了之後只是說 你隨時想訂都可以要馬上 連去也行好那我 問你問你假設假 設他當下沒有去按 立即去訂購 那系統會提醒 他嗎\n第一個是在 它可以 我還 沒有截到那個圖一個是 在定房成功 的時候的信件其實 這邊就有告訴他高鐵 但這個文字可能不是那麼清楚 啦是可以自行設計再調一下 那另外一個是我剛問志明 是說在訂票可 訂票日的前一天 會發現\n對 前天 前一天因為現在 假設說29天嘛所以會在第30 天的時候才發信告訴他說明天可以 訂票 然後以及是 入住日前一天 就提醒他說你的訂票 就是會有這個信件的提醒 但那個信件我要在系統裡面把它做 消費者的訂 購訂單上面\n就他會 回到系統去查他的訂 單的時候應該也有地方會 提醒他\n它現在資料 還沒寫完就是第一個 是這邊我會全部改成高 鐵票但進來的時候我會先如果它沒有 訂票我會先跳出視窗告訴它說它 還有高鐵票沒有訂購我覺得用彈跳視窗 就比較會清醒清楚然後 當然中間這邊 也會有高鐵的資訊這目前有的但是這邊 我會把它改成是有才顯示 對但重點是那個進來 會有彈跳視窗因為主要提醒 它\n所以 所以這次高鐵的所有界面都是 RWD的嗎?而且也是全語 文版 對 呃這邊 我可能要跟製品討論一下這個 就是這個系這個界面 剛討論的界面它是要從科 呢還是照原本可是原本 的沒有RWD 我建議啦設計的調 型設計的調型 像比如我們是用高鐵那個local\n沒錯我覺得 設計的調性可以維 持顏色色澤調性 我覺得可以維持但介 面他們想重做我覺得也沒問題 我覺得是可以把它重做然後變 得好像一個全新的東西第一個 是我們的辦公室會覺得你重新做了一個不 一樣的東西出來的那種感覺然後 因為我們現在界面有點老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊老舊\nOK 這規劃就大概是這樣子然後 但後面我覺得有一些東西是要跟 致民討論之後再來做決 定像那個金流那邊我 原本想的是一家飯店只會有一間金流 嘛結果他剛有告訴我說沒有 中國信託他必須要設定三個值 一個是一般一般刷 卡一個是移民卡一個是AE卡 他的那個Key都不一樣\n所以不能 只有張數所以 我原本規劃這個就會再調整我會變成 是有一個列表然後 原本的高鐵其實我們 後台就有了就是哪些房可以停 等一下所以你的高鐵還要再重新設置一次收 管銀行的項目 留啊因為我們金流全部拆開來了 我們金流不是全部拔出來嗎那 拔出來之後我要請他們給我key\n我不 先講現在因為 有些銀行已經有給我們所以讓我們資料庫用 我可以自動把它帶進去 只是還是有一個這樣的 設定的地方 因為這個key也是我們之後要 傳給Gamma那邊 這一次這個 這一次 這個金流 金 流模組\n應該不是 只是為了高鐵 是所有的金流 是所有金流 對嘛 以後就會在後台 其實 基本上你就只是設定一次 你的 高鐵你的香港那麼 的首款都會是同樣的東西 對嗎 沒錯嘛 等一下 但我覺得這邊是可以討論啦 是說 那我再問一個 所以也就是說以 今 假如 是原本已經設定好的客戶\n他不用再重新 設定了直接帶入 了對吧那你現在畫 這個情境是針對未來新的客 戶或他要改金流的時候才會 出現的情境對吧 是 但是這邊其實是可以討論 一件事情是說因為都是我的客 戶那是不是這個經由是到行政後 台那邊去設定\n但是我不確定 我們會不會客戶例如 說假設經驗酒店還有用我們訂房系 統也有用我們終點可是它兩個 手法要不一樣 可能用 那如果是帳號我會建議 這都應該維持先來就是各系統各 自設定因為其實沒有很難 而且也才一次而已好 維持各系統好了維持各系統因為 因為現在目前的終點目前 的現在 那個終點\n現在這個終點 感覺休 什麼那個汽車旅館 可能還會用得到但以後其實可能汽車 旅館不會用到了因為在國際版 限定裡面其實就有做那個功能 了那那我們 現在這個終點旅宿業 未來會用到的話大概會是什麼情 境它是真的紮紮實實是 它不是住宿 相關的終 點服務譬如說\n它會先聊 手作坊 然後現場的什麼課程 那麼SPA可能 就它這個非房間類的 就會用到這些了 還是這樣 對吧 那所以其實它還是要有點切開來 那場域類的呢 場域類講 飯店 到這就是場域類那就是 中年預約啊\n只要是住宿 旅宿通常 就是其他地方系统 那只是我们现在未来会有一个 新版的国际国际版 其他地方国际版其他地方里面其实就已经把 那种时段型入住 时段型住宿的客人 就住在里面了他本来就已经有一个\n但這個重 點不會不見因為這 重點本來當初做出來就不是為 了要點魚管只是那 時候你一個系統剛做出來你要 快速的推廣跟快速 的有人使用那第一個 一定是旅住業因為我 那時候就知道我們 銷售人員他第一個一定會去 找最熟悉的人這很正常\n那 但是終點為什麼 一直沒有我為什麼阻擋他們 去大量去改往旅宿 因為我要講 他們現在看到的是整個狀態 很多都沒有辦法 成為一個商業模式 的評估因為 他們只在做一件事打旅 宿 然後他們我老實講 我看所有數據我不滿你們說\n他們在跑 其他的服 務業項目裡面 占大多數的都是半 紅半偏 嗯 所以後來為什麼 許約都許不起來 一改成月租全部 都許不起來 然後再加上他們之前 有一些人 員跟人員政策上面的問題 造成所有數據都完全不能 採納\n嗯 anyway所以呢我打從一開始 本來就是節奏就是要這樣子做 那很有可能假如銷售部門 他們真的真的 現在原有銷售部門比較擅長 語術 那我就會讓他們繼續好好的擅 長語術也就好了其他 我只有打算 但先就要看他們自己有 多大本事\n嗯 所以終點預約呢 我們就好好的 玩 所以終點預約這個產品啊 這 產品老實講會不會活下去 我也不知道 反正公司都已經發 錢去做 但我要講它就不要 死衛旅館 民宿 因為現在會 發生這個狀況是來自 於我們銷售部門的同仁 使會這一個戰局\n嗯 他大概是這樣這是閒聊閒聊聊 到的 對啊反正大概是這樣所以以後 國際版會有國際版國際版應該 就是針對旅宿他就是針對旅宿 型的客戶所以他裡面 為什麼會有重點不是因為 為了要什麼產品切割沒有那麼高大上就只有 一個因為庫存現在 重點大家有 一些旅館會用的\n排進戲 最大的原因 是因為它要扣兩套 但你要怎麼扣一套 很難吧 Mm. 唯一一個就是綁在一起 然後透過原本 的旅宿架構的儲存來去 控制它原有的 控制 它的那個終點的房 終點的那個數量 這做起來很複雜 白說 綜 合室要討論就跟我討論很久\n所以這個重點 其實這個產業不是為 了女書業都是為了 非女書產業所做的 OK好 那這樣子這個應該就討論完了嘛討論 完了可是聽起來喔 目前你現在目前的方式 好像套用到 CJ在做那個\n全世界 都是規劃好像只有 在前期的需求梳 練會有幫助 對 我不確定因為如果按照 細節的架構的話你看 我剛剛這個東西我只要滾這麼久 它的討論就會更複雜因為 它有很多細節細節細節所以 它可能就要承認說我現在跟你討論 這個東西那它的\n定義方向 我們大概想要怎麼做要先告訴AI 那接下來告訴他說我要開始每一 個功能每一個功能跟你討論 對然後最後再請他把這些功能全部兜 起來 好吧 反正你有跟 C.J.講吧 對我剛剛跟你講過 因為我們兩個職 業不一樣啦但是這個東西是針 對既有的系統然後再加工的 什麼的 你 可以這樣做 們就盡量去嘗試就 盡量去嘗試因為\n到底能 不能怎麼樣方式 對規劃這件事情 對你們最有利 哼 我覺得還是要慢慢找出 一個好的方法 那當然假如技術不能往後連 你們出Wi-Fi都不用出了 當然就沒事 那很可能就是專注的是在 市場跟需求新技 術如何融合然後 還有\n产品的 真实方向 然后公司内部的人 员对于产品的需求 也好就是他们可能会 有一些破碎的需求 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的交易然後多少訂單 金額但是然後 這份 主要是這一份表\n我知道說 我每一個 月的導購成效去比較可是 我再升推一層它的那個 整個它的要 表達出來的商業邏輯的時候 我好像沒有辦法 去看出說其實 我最適合跟哪 一個KOL合作或者 是說我在 什麼樣的一個案件 的時候我的那個\n我在什麼 樣的一個案件的時候我的 成效最好 我覺得這件事情它就 如果說我只是要看一個財 務的結果這個OK可是 我如果我要 看財務的結果的話好像 我看之前的導購 名氣就可以滿足了\n好 我 這樣子我就知道訂 單總金額多少有多少交易比數 其實是一樣的 我 東西 有個建議啦 我有個建議是這樣 我們要我們要 你看 我現在是在說是 業者在看這個項目可是 業者在看業者 在看這個項目裡面 你反推你反看 手上第一件事情他找KOL\n有花 錢的不 花錢的就是我只提供 付費我不要給錢我給錢 我提供付費也可能有然後 呢我前面兩者都沒有我 只要給你導購也有可能那 也有我又花錢我也給你導購 什麼都給你對吧 所以這Dashboard啊假如 只單純在看導購很有可能 就是抽到都不給人家抽那個 人他這Dashboard不知道看什麼\n那 待會看不到 所以我覺得在 上面但因為 這個是首頁嘛這是首頁 還是什麼樣子的 不是 裡面 這是導購成效頁 今天不是在講導購這一頁 只是再講導購 假如講假如講導購成 效那就沒事了導 購成效不外乎就是現在目前 導購的\n導購 的 譬如說導購 有導購的專 案大概有哪幾 個 然後有多少人 參與導購 那導購 出來現在目前累積總金額 然後再來 就是最多就是說現在目前 導購成效最好的KOL是誰\n然後Baseball 永遠都是你 只要想第一張首頁它 是讓你快速知道最主要 事情由大進入 到由大進入到 小所以 也不用想太多你看 導入交易數總交易數 有嘛但是目前可能最多就是 再多一個像比如說比如 說可能有一個格子 是一個導入\n譬如說 導購 現在目前正在 導購的專案有幾個 然後總計的 總計的現在總體的導 購成功的交易量 失敗不用給 為什麼失敗 那是因為我們系統有問題 但其實大部分他們只要知道成功 就好了 訂購的金額 就 是你的交易的總量\n那再 來就是譬 如說誰現在 賣得誰賣得最好可能top5 或top10 反正都混合著記嘛然後 你可以用金額或 訂單數量為主 那還有什麼\n我覺得差不多 吧 因為這個是很快 的 很快它導到 假如你要知道更細的 它 就會導到對應的一些細節 的地方給你去看 就 這樣不要想 太多 然後後面再慢慢加 我們現在不用想得太複 雜\n嗯好 因為我覺得 這裡面 他的範圍也有啊下面都有啊 需要 OK 一些 你下面 商業 應該都有 術語啊那對 他會不會注意摸點啊 那我覺得好像沒有一些 商業語言的表達 因為 有時候不是不是一定要 很高尚才叫高尚好不好 你你做太多複雜 的人反而不懂後面再漫漫 我老實講你說這個東西出來之後\n當你數據量 夠你能做什麼 我可以直接跟你講 嗯 以後這個系統就可以建議他們以後 可以出什麼樣子的方式跟什麼樣的 KOL合作 對你最有效果 這個決策後來才會有 對吧 決策建議要 現在目前不會有 但你覺得 大概就是這些東西 因為你要跑 一段時間才會有 然後 你就覺得建議會是一個頁面嘛\n他就聚 測小精靈 好 那按了之後就把他所有的 匯整過的數據吐出來那 就說大概哪一些 類型的KOL就適合他 那是不是可以刺激他下次再買單 對 對吧 然後後面可能就會說你 是否要再試一試這個 新的這樣子模式我們 再建立一次訂單\n喔 對呀這不就是循環 OK 那你那個像幾拍幾拍我覺得 也很OK啊就很像拍幾拍拍拍 很OK啊你就加啊 然後 這個我 這個有啦這個我想說還是 要加因為它是一個趨勢變化 練 你的確本月上月三個月這些可以 有因為你一按這個面 板馬上就會做改變 緯度也不一樣\n哎呦 哎呦好我再跟諾 亞請教一下因為這聽起來 你就要你講看盤你覺得好像 可以用 你們 一些 就去 產 看股票 業去 那個 試訓那個 就去看股票上面會寫什麼那大概就是 那些人會想要什麼 不要寫K線圖勒你不要真的 來給我畫蠟燭欸 不會 那我真的給你擦蠟燭了 那就太硬了 然後下面你看Top5很OK 啊有啊該要有就這 不是\n這你不覺得 這個就像那個 APP 下面還告訴你哪五檔最熱 門哪五檔 大家最關注那 但是對他們導播來講就是哪 幾個 KOL賣很好然後 你現在賣得最好是哪 一些的乾淨 好 我們這個是特別為導播做的 對這個是為導播做的 我可以念到裡面了\nOh did it be all. We should send him to No. Me and then be We don't How, then how, let's have a look. 倒扣成效制 倒扣 倒扣名前列是新增 规则而已 然后 那个设定没有异 动 设定有把那个就是 通知的\n通知的 取證規則來去 寫到剛剛那封文件裡面 另外 看一下這裡 面都是把細節規則補進來 然後增加 了語言因為 上次有提到說要增加 一個這一頁是那個\nuh 編輯 按鍵 編輯 按鍵條件有新增語 言 然後 AI 建議的部分我把它寫在 這裡 我想說應該是設定到 KOL 的條件的時候 呃他會 希望說在這個地方 看到說有這樣的一個建議 所以這裡有會 文字框當他點完 之後就是\n當他的 操作 鍵不要離開輸入框或者是說點完 某些按鈕的時候這個建 議產生 那這個會跟工程師討論 方式這樣子好不好這個是 主動式的嗎 那如果說主動 式的我們可能會傳送太 多次的呼叫需求的時候 就是在這裡加一個按鈕叫 AI建議然後他就變被動式 了我點了AI建議之後他產生文字\n但是講清楚 之後我沒有真的很 理解 好原本是想 說它是主動式的通知 主動式的通知它 會說比方說 不好意思這個是業者的業者 在設定 他的任務的界面嗎 對\n它的規則 是 我現在輸入金額之後 輸入完我離開了 我的滑鼠也不要離開了我可能 點下一欄或什麼的然後 這個地方AI建議它就開始送 一次請求它還變更通知這是 主動式的通知但是 它可能會我不知道 它會花掉多少Token或者是 使用多少效能 我問一下通知什麼\n要給 他AI 建議說他現在 設定的條件怎麼樣是不是 容易吸到吸引到KOL 或者是說建議他怎麼 去調整這上次有提到的一個 AI AI助理 的功能然後 呢那個\n如果說 我們就是 跟工程師討論之後我們 每一次這種 難會輸入的輸之後 他都會觸發這樣的一次行為 我的建議應該 在儲存之前就 他按下儲存之後AI會 給他一個建議因為 你每次按第一個什麼時機 發售不知道\n好 第二個 你假如是透 過前端指端判斷那 token影片會浪費超多 是無意義的浪費 你反而應該是在最後你要送 出的時候 會有兩個一個就是AI AI建議 AI智慧建議 然後跟我不管 我的手 就讓他自己選 可是你只是要通知他說例如說KRL 有多少符合這個條件對不對\n不 新的合作嗎 適合 不適合 這個條件適不適合拿來跑 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"text": "我先請兩位不要去扭曲我的用語因為未來高效率的工作團隊本來就會是這樣因為我在慢慢的在實踐跟實行不同很跨域的團隊或是不同工作的可能性所以時間管理很重要但時間管理者", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_26", "end": 195.866, "speaker": "A", "start": 189.716, "text": "人第一個他真的會比較唯一一件事是這樣因為會要求人家", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_27", "end": 200.51600000000002, "speaker": "A", "start": 196.566, "text": "所以自己的時間時程一定要抓得很很好", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_28", "end": 215.01600000000002, "speaker": "A", "start": 200.916, "text": "我不能說很準但是至少要有評有據和合理因為你總會遇到那種不講理能力不好但又要跟你靠北的人", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_29", "end": 231.498, "speaker": "A", "start": 216.148, "text": "那我就說吵 全部都是我感覺我覺得我認為 你覺得他認為 這個對一個團隊來講都不會好事 就這麼一招全部列出來 清清楚楚就長這個樣子 你也不要靠北 那", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_30", "end": 242.148, "speaker": "A", "start": 232.798, "text": "不喜歡就滾 喜歡繼續幹 絕對不會說我們是不是錯怪了了人因為我不喜歡冤枉人家", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_31", "end": 263.808, "speaker": "A", "start": 242.708, 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"end": 359.532, "speaker": "A", "start": 351.232, "text": "雖然這個有很多紙給你們做一些實驗讓你們Try 可是它不是無止境的一直跟我拉長 我也不喜歡", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_46", "end": 362.232, "speaker": "A", "start": 360.132, "text": "所以下禮拜 最終", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_47", "end": 366.582, "speaker": "A", "start": 362.782, "text": "這任務系統不知道要多久了 才終", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_48", "end": 370.782, "speaker": "A", "start": 366.982, "text": "第一週叫實驗 第二週就今天 對吧", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_49", "end": 371.532, "speaker": "F", "start": 371.082, "text": " Hmm.", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_50", "end": 376.982, "speaker": "A", "start": 371.532, "text": "那下一個就第三週 而且你們跟我Repost是", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_51", "end": 386.96, "speaker": "A", "start": 378.26, "text": "我相信剛剛那個任務時間你剛才跟我這樣講時間你應該已經知道我為什麼動動就問你什麼時候做完什麼時候跑", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_52", "end": 395.06, "speaker": 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我不敢跟你們說因為我也知道你們手上的會議好像也有點像臥一樣我也自己慢慢在調整我盡量都把很多東西是壓到後面我一次講我一次說我要講的是", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_99", "end": 792.716, "speaker": "A", "start": 785.166, "text": "我自己都會盡量也盡量去配合你們的工作但我也希望你們要理解我要的人是什麼", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_100", "end": 793.466, "speaker": "K", "start": 793.116, "text": " Hmm.", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_101", "end": 802.952, "speaker": "A", "start": 794.452, "text": " 好 所以剩下來那些這禮拜用時間去把你應該要組成的", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_102", "end": 805.452, "speaker": "A", "start": 803.402, "text": "應該要得到的把它完成", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_103", "end": 819.502, "speaker": "A", "start": 806.002, "text": "下週二就是我希望這些東西就要收尾了除非討論完發現這個不行那個不行這個要拿再討論那就延長這沒問題這是經過大家一定", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_104", "end": 826.414, "speaker": "A", "start": 820.564, "text": "你知道我今天我問老闆牛說欸今天這個會議是不是就是把所有東西結束了欸對對對", "type": "transcript.text.segment" }, { "id": "seg_105", 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沒有底氣去管理別人可是 你們不去管理別人對 我來說會很困擾嗯 對吧因為我要 的我當然不是要你們去吵架 我要不是你們去\n當警衛 都不是 我先請兩位不要去扭曲 我的用語因為 未來高效率的 工作團隊本來就會是這樣 因為我在慢慢 的在實踐跟實行不同 很跨域的團隊或 是不同工作的可能 性所以 時間管理很重要但 時間管理者\n人第一個 他真的會比較 唯一一件 事是這樣因為會要求人家 所以自己的時間時 程一定要抓得很很好 我不能說很準但是至少 要有評有 據和合理因為 你總會遇到那種不 講理能力 不好但又要跟你靠 北的人\n那我就說 吵 全部都是 我感覺我覺得我認為 你 覺得他認為 這個 對一個團隊來講都不會 好事 就這麼一招全部列出來 清清楚楚就長這個樣子 你 也不要靠北 那 不喜歡就滾 喜歡 繼續幹 絕對不會說我們是不是 錯怪了了人因為 我不喜歡冤枉人家\n所以我也 希望我自己的团队 执行工作是要合合理理去 去人人去管理每件事情 所以第二件事情你们 压出来时间一定要 很准确 就像这一个 我问了老板天我 就说这个东西应该是礼拜二结束 吗还是 Hmm. 留了一堆 那我给你开我 又要再抽第二次这样的时间\n各位我要 跟你們講你們時間很 寶貴我的 時間也很寶貴 所以我希望你跟各位是有 一個高效的過程能 對過不走冤枉路繼續 前進 然後呢你不知道的或者 是你想要得到的資訊 才能讓你繼續往前全部 梳理完找到該要問的人\n假如 有人不回答你们 假如有东西不给你们 然后呢也没有到我这边 需要就说 有人不 配合 我需要你解决 林镇我都没有 到最后 跟我说因为这个我还要再找 你们 那是谁的错 对 吧\n我做事 就这样 有 凭有据 对 就是对 错就是错 错 了不要找理由 鼻子摸了 被好好的被干一顿 要找 方法 下一次不要犯 我 做事情就是这样 我 不希望他模糊\n要不然 雖然這個有很多紙給你們 做一些實驗讓你們Try 可是它不是無止境的一直 跟我拉長 我也不喜歡 所以下禮拜 最終 這任務系統不知道要多久 了 才終 第一週叫實驗 第二 週就今天 對吧 Hmm. 那下一個就第三週 而且 你們跟我Repost 是\n我相信剛 剛那個任務時間 你剛才跟我這樣講時間你應該 已經知道我為什麼動動就問 你什麼時候做完什麼時候跑 可千萬不要跟我講 說下禮拜二要開戶頭其實 你禮拜五就不能做完的事你要拖到 下禮拜二 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